Ubuntu 9.1

chrism · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:30 pm GMT Post subject: Ubuntu 9.1

At Side Effects Software we strive to bring you the best product at every release cycle. However while we can control Houdini and its stability we cannot always control other components of the environment such as the operating system. Ubuntu 9.1 was recently released to the public and after extensive testing we cannot support karmic koala due to various library incompatibility issues. We are working hard to resolve these problems and welcome input from our customers in this process.

JColdrick · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:06 pm GMT Post subject:

Thanks for the update, Chris. At the risk of a make-work question(heaven forbid! Razz

), what sorts of libraries are you having trouble with? I'm not an Ubuntu user but I've definitely seen cases where it's the canary in the coal mine for some other distros. We're running SUSE 11.1 here(no problems) but I was thinking of going 11.2 perhaps over the holidays, so I can keep an eye peeled for trouble spots.

Cheers,

J.C.

lukeiamyourfather · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:07 pm GMT Post subject:

Thanks for the news! I'm also a Ubuntu user and am curious about what in particular is not working with Ubuntu 9.10 and Houdini. Before reading this I was planning on upgrading to Karmic at home, hopefully there are workarounds of some sort. Cheers!

opalmer · Lurker Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 1

The primary libraries that seem to be at fault are glib, gtk, and libz. Of course these libraries are core system libraries and cannot be simply replaced with older versions as several other components, such as Gnome, have also been upgraded. Aside from the libraries however there were also some gpu driver problems that were presented with NVIDIA drivers 185+. Various 'fixes' were attempted but none of them were stable enough to be used in a development environment, let alone production. Sad

td3d · Talkative Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 25

any news about ubuntu 9.10?

Wren · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:52 pm GMT Post subject:

What if you use Kubuntu 9.10 kde 4.3.3 ?

ps. Does suse 11.2 work?

Achayan · Lurker Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 5 Location: India

any hope with ubuntu 9.10 or we need to go back to 9.04 ??

edward · Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:52 am GMT Post subject:

You could try debugging somewhat from my instructions here:
http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=172&page=viewtopic&t=17069

JColdrick · Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:53 am GMT Post subject:

Wren: I've been running SUSE 11.2 since the day after release, it works a charm. No issues at all so far, and KDE4 implementation is awesome(as opposed to SUSE 11.1/KDE4, which was unusable).

Cheers,

J.C.

td3d · Talkative Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 25

JColdrick · Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:42 am GMT Post subject:

I'm running the latest and greatest Houdini, and we upgrade frequently. SESI is very generous when it comes to Linux distro support. Technically, yes, they have an official list of supported distros(which is still *very* large by any standards), but they want Houdini to work in most of the more popular ones. They try their best to iron out issues(such as the ones in this thread with Unbuntu) because they realize that inevitably they'll need to deal with it anyway, better earlier than later.

Of course, sometimes 'stuff happens' and they'll reluctantly need to put some issues on the back burner for a time, then they'll have to fall back to the official list. However, I've been running 'unsupported' distros almost since Houdini was ported to Linux. I would use the experiences of others, from threads like this, to help warn of problems.

Cheers,

J.C.

samsalek · Lurker Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Bournemouth

I had only one problem when running houdini on 9.1 which was solved by removing "hsvg" folder! however 9.04 is a more stable version of ubuntu anyway ....

edward · Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:15 am GMT Post subject:

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Dageris · Talkative Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 49

Hi i just swtiched to ubuntu 9.10, wish i saw this before i did it. So far its great, much faster than vista 64bit for me anyway. I also tried the workaround, deleting the lib files. I get the icons back but they flash in and out as i move my mouse over them. For example the toolbar where you create primitives, when you move your mouse over it it goes from showing the icons to just a solid grey piece. This happpens with most of the UI elements and windows. Not to mention there is lag in the interface. Also after i deleted the lib files and started up houdini i get a message saying "application was updated but your sqlite version is to old, cant run program".

heres the houdini version i downloaded Ubuntu Linux 9.04* [MD5] Linux x86_64 gcc4.3 (tar.gz) 214.2 MB. Is this the correct one for ubuntu 9.10 64bit

Here is my hardware specs. Im wondering if it could be my gpu drivers also. I downloaded the latest gpu driver, its a .run file. Could anyone be so kind as to tell me how to install it?
@Jcoldrick You said its working great under opensuse 11.2? I just switched to linux yesterday so i have no issues switching, would you reccomend it?

AMD phenom 9850 BE 2.5ghz
4gig ddr2 pc1066
amd radeon 3870 512mb ( driver version 8.6 i think, i just used the last ubuntu tested ones)
creative sxfi extrememusic sound card

JColdrick · Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:49 pm GMT Post subject:

Well, I'm afraid linux distros are sort of like platforms in general, tend to attract fervent hatred or passionate attachment. I think SUSE 11.2 is wonderful, yeah, it's absolutely worth a shot if you're not married to any particular distro yet. It's got a great KDE integration, plus they're wired firefox 3.5 quite tidily into the desktop(you can safely avoid 3 or 4 different browsers unlike most linux installs). Additionally, it ships with a workstation kernel now, tuned for the desktop. The standard kernel is still there too, of course.

Cheers,

J.C.

twod · Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:57 pm GMT Post subject:

I downloaded the 9.11 Catalyst drivers from ATI's website and so far, they're quite an improvement on earlier drivers. There is a minor GLSL compiler issue, but it's rare and unlikely to affect Houdini.

To install them, you need to do this as root:

Dageris · Talkative Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 49

Thanks for the reply Jcoldrick Smile

Im brand new to linux, so i dont have any attachments. I left windows because it was being a memory hog, and for no reason started giving me browseui.dll bad image errors. Which started having annoying side effects on my computer. So it seemed like a good time to jump ship lol.

If i cant get houdini to work on ubuntu 9.10, i think i might give opensuse 11.2 a try. I will let you know how it goes

Dageris · Talkative Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 49

@twod Thanks man i will give that a shot and let you know Smile

freejonah · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:15 am GMT Post subject: 9.10 Ubuntu and houdini

Hi all,

I feel like I just showed up late to a party. Ok, I just upgraded from Ubuntu 8 to Ubuntu 9.10. I then tried to install houdini10.0.465 for Ubuntu 9.04. Install went fine, but it won't run the binary file.
I've been pointed to this thread since I started having problems. Can we assume this is the same issue you have all been having? Is it hopeless, or can I try one of these quick fixes you were talking about last month. Has there been any developments since then?
Please let me know. Also, if necessary, what's the easiest way to downgrade to Ubuntu 9.04? They make it very easy to upgrade, but it's hard to figure out how to go the other way.

many thanks
Jonah in Venice

freejonah · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:58 pm GMT Post subject: the error message

this is what i get when i try to run houdini in a shell

/opt/hfs10.0.465/bin/houdini: line 8: /opt/hfs10.0.465/bin/houdini-bin: cannot execute binary file
/opt/hfs10.0.465/bin/houdini: line 8: /opt/hfs10.0.465/bin/houdini-bin: Success

Alanw · Houdini Expert Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 253

Have you gone through the instructions for dealing with hsvg issues? Edward posted it just above, but here it is again incase you hadn't seen it. http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=172&page=viewtopic&t=17069

I have no direct experience with Ubuntu 9.10, but I've read a few posts of others having success after they solved this.

Also, the "cannot execute binary file" message may suggest you downloaded the wrong Houdini build. Are you sure your architecture and gcc match up?

edward · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:44 pm GMT Post subject:

freejonah · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:13 pm GMT Post subject:

The good news is you were right! Thank you. I feel a little silly. I'm usually pretty good at making sure of that sort of thing, but the Ubuntu selection was sitting up on top all alone and I just grabbed it without thinking.

Now for the bad news. When I run houdini my SCREEN GOES BLACK. I have to hit the power button and restart my computer. The mouse was moving around fine and I could tell it was rolling over stuff that was still active on my desktop. I have a Macbook Pro ( 32 bit ) with dual boot. I have no idea what to do.

Just for laughs I tried moving the hsvg folder out of the way as was mentioned earlier.

any suggestions would be great.
Thanks
Jonah