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chf: Member; 131 posts; Joined: Nov. 2015; Offline

Oct. 21, 2022 4:49 a.m.

I am wondering what is the status with houdini on apple silicon?

is everything working?
what isn't?
would you be able to use it for production in it's current state?
what's the performance in certain areas like fluids, vellum, pyro, karma,..?

thanks


johnmather: Staff; 308 posts; Joined: Aug. 2019; Offline

Oct. 22, 2022 8:23 p.m.

We are keeping an up-to-date list of issues here: https://www.sidefx.com/forum/topic/83312/ [www.sidefx.com]

The Apple silicon build is still not production ready and is not supported by us for production use. We are close, but not quite there yet.

Some users have posted their performance results here [www.sidefx.com] and here [www.sidefx.com].

Edited by johnmather - Oct. 22, 2022 20:25:44


chf: Member; 131 posts; Joined: Nov. 2015; Offline

Oct. 24, 2022 4:26 a.m.

Thanks!

It's just that the last entry in here [www.sidefx.com] is from Aug. 24, 2022 from yourself.
That's why I got curious if there is some more recent info.


sda502: Member; 35 posts; Joined: April 2022; Offline

Oct. 24, 2022 4:45 a.m.

Yeah out of curiosity I also wanted to know if Karma XPU support could come onto Apple Silicon by end of the year?

Heard that it's extremely fast on windows!

Edited by sda502 - Oct. 24, 2022 04:46:56


brians: Staff; 267 posts; Joined: May 2019; Offline

Oct. 24, 2022 9:04 p.m.

sda502
Yeah out of curiosity I also wanted to know if Karma XPU support could come onto Apple Silicon by end of the year?
Heard that it's extremely fast on windows!

XPU already works on Apple Silicon, but currently is CPU-only (meaning it does not use the GPU).
We have future plans to support the GPU on Apple, but they're not immediate sorry.

Edited by brians - Oct. 24, 2022 21:05:03


corestudio: Member; 28 posts; Joined: April 2008; Offline

Oct. 28, 2022 6:36 p.m.

I use it daily in production, fwiw. But yes looking forward to a full featured Karma XPU


OdFotan: Member; 192 posts; Joined: April 2015; Offline

Nov. 14, 2022 6:30 a.m.

So if you wanna use XPU it's faster on the non-Silicon Mac version of Houdini?


osong: Member; 175 posts; Joined: May 2017; Offline

Nov. 16, 2022 7:34 p.m.

XPU is significantly faster if you have a powerful NVidia GPU. Other GPUs are not supported (yet?)

https://twitter.com/oossoonngg [twitter.com]


chf: Member; 131 posts; Joined: Nov. 2015; Offline

Nov. 18, 2022 5:48 a.m.

what is the plan with opencl acceleration in pyro, flip, etc. ?
is / can this being translated to a metal version?


johnmather: Staff; 308 posts; Joined: Aug. 2019; Offline

Nov. 18, 2022 12:12 p.m.

OpenCL acceleration is still possible on Apple silicon and has been present in every public release of our Apple silicon builds.


Tomotron89: Member; 6 posts; Joined: Sept. 2016; Online

Nov. 24, 2022 12:45 p.m.

I've tested KarmaXPU on my M1 Ultra and even though it is only utilising the CPU, the speed is still very impressive for CPU only. So I can only imagine that being significantly better with the GPU compatibility.


chf: Member; 131 posts; Joined: Nov. 2015; Offline

Nov. 27, 2022 1:14 p.m.

Tomotron89
I've tested KarmaXPU on my M1 Ultra and even though it is only utilising the CPU, the speed is still very impressive for CPU only. So I can only imagine that being significantly better with the GPU compatibility.

that sounds very promising!

how is the GPU utilization/performance (opencl?) in pyro, flip, vellum,.. ?

Edited by chf - Nov. 28, 2022 10:55:50

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