tsuno
Jan. 10, 2023 04:28:23
Hello.
The blendshapes in the FBX files imported with fbx character import are different from what I see in other software (I have tried with blender).
How can I solve this problem?
I have attached a test project.
uakin
Jan. 10, 2023 06:26:59
I tested it. both look the same
tsuno
Jan. 10, 2023 07:37:40
Thank you.
I am referring to the black shadow on the Edge of this hair.
The light blue lines in your image remind me of Blender's sharpening.
I haven't solved it yet, but I found out that it might be related to it.
tsuno
Jan. 10, 2023 08:12:22
The importer does not seem to reflect sharp (or hard edge) in the normal for meshes stored as blendshapes.
In contrast, the importer correctly handles sharp and reflects it to the normal in a generic mesh.
Ideally, the importer should handle it the same way.
(Blendshape's normal is essential for large shape changes)
uakin
Jan. 10, 2023 10:30:52
I think the normal value is wrong.
tsuno
Jan. 10, 2023 12:37:08
I think so, too.
I think when it is imported to Houdini it get wrong...
Is that screen Maya?
(I dont have Maya.)
If it's wrong in Maya too, it might be a problem with the export in Blender.
uakin
Jan. 11, 2023 03:50:02
Yes this is the "maya" screen. However, when blending the two meshes, the normal data looks fine in maya. But when I showed these meshes separately, I got this image.(above)
ajz3d
Jan. 11, 2023 05:27:11
It looks like normals of blend shapes were either not exported with the character, or Houdini doesn't know how to handle them. So what happens is that custom vertex normals of the skin mesh are blended with smooth normals that were applied on blend shapes during import.
To fix this, you can stop blending normals (remove N from Character Blend Shape's attribs
parm), or you can copy normals from base mesh to each extracted blend shape and then add those blend shapes back to character's skin geometry.
tsuno
Jan. 13, 2023 04:11:18
Thank you.
I agree with you.
Thanks also for the current solution.
Maybe they can't implement it because of the FBX data specs, but I would like to be able to get the normal information of the blend shape as well as the base mesh correctly.
I will submit a request to the company.
Andrej730
Sept. 19, 2023 00:07:13
1. Can confirm as for 19.5 normals for blend shapes are exported but they all have zero values (meaning zero difference from the base blend shape). It seems that fbx exporter is either ignoring blend shape normals or zeroes them for some other reason.

2. Tried method siggested by @ajz3d but normals are lost when you add blend shape.
Correct normals when you copied them to the extracted blend shape.

But when I add blend shape and extract it again they are gone (I mean they are back to the base mesh, ignoring blend shape normals). When I play blend shapes animation visually it's the same result - it's not considering blend shapes normals.

UPD. Found the way to solve the issue #2 inside Houdini by adding point jitter with really small scale 0.0003 - previously Houdini was ignoring changing normals if there were no change in points position.
But after exporting it to FBX I still got issue #1.
kodra
Oct. 10, 2023 01:56:07
Is there a solution to this? It seems really weird that Houdini chooses to export zeros.