Thanks for taking the time to help sidenimjay, however it looks like you forgot to add an attachment unless I'm missing something? :?:
edit; oops, looks like its there, my bad.
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edit 2; I've had a look at the file, many many thanks for that, it makes sense and everything. The pre-generated wire seems like the way to go, but when it's simulated if I move a null point a certain distance away it starts oscillating wildly. its fine if I hide the autodopnetwork and just view the wire, but then its not simulated as a wire which would be nice.
I have something to work with at the very least though so its not a loss, and like I say, thanks for taking the time - the way the wire is created from points in relation to a null, I've got to start thinking like that, awesome program.
edit: playing around with it some more increasing the angular damping seems to help a lot. I guess it's just a case of tweaking the settings to get something I can trust will work. Got to say thanks again, you are a lifesaver, was driving me mad.