We're busy getting a groom into usd and pre-capturing it with the guides, so we can sim the guides and with houdini Procedural hair deform the groom on render time.

Now we're first busy with checking it in sops. So I re-made the scene with the rubbertoy.
We first capture the groom with the guides. We then deform the guides by skin, and then use the deformed guides to deform the pre-captured groom. It works half, until we toggle the create orientation attribute on in the guide deform node for the guides. Why is this?

Because when we open this example file it does work without create orientation attribute:
https://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/nodes/lop/houdinihairprocedural.html [www.sidefx.com]

I modified the scene a little, but it is the second attached file.

Are we missing something in the deform rubbertoy why it doesn't work the way it should?

Kind regards,
Chris