MTLX - Position and Normal data before dicing / displacement

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Is there a way to retrieve the normal and position data in mtlx before its being displaced and without extra primvars.
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Sorry, I am using a translation tool and may be interpreting it incorrectly.

I hope this tip will help you to find a solution.
https://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/nodes/vop/kma_rayimport.html [www.sidefx.com]
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I hope this tip will help you to find a solution.
https://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/nodes/vop/kma_rayimport.html [www.sidefx.com]

Thanks for the tip Suu-jp. But those return the diced geo afaik. Happy to be proven wrong though

Kinda just want to get the raw pos and normal data without having to add rest coords all over the place.

But maybe I'm missing something. How would someone use the triplanar with displacement without having access to the raw pos?
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