Hey guys the lurker here.
Im planing to invest some bucks in a machine specially for houdini. Could anyone give me some hints for what I must look for, based on your experience with the app and not the min/max sys req. Some details 4 example GPUs brands and such.
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One thing I have heard (haven't experienced this myself) is that an SSD (solid state drive) can greatly speed up your fluid sims due to constantly reading/writing huge amounts of data. This could conceivably make more of a difference than faster CPU's since hard drives can be such a choking point, but I am not sure at this point.
I plan to make a new PC over Christmas and am going to put my Operating system on the SSD as well as use it for all of my Houdini caching/etc. as well as for large models/textures for quick access during renders. I plan to go for the Core i7 2600K CPU (rather than the expensive 6 core 980X) because in many tests it outperforms the 6 core Core i7's at a MUCH lower price and it overclocks easily which allows it to not lose out too much when it comes to multithreaded things like rendering and fluid sims. The 980X (or maybe 990X now) is still your best bet for fluid sims, though- but you can save a lot of money and not lose too much performance by going to an overclocked 2600K.
It would be interesting for someone to run some tests on non-SSD vs. SSD fluid sims and large renders. (Maybe I will once I build my machine…)
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I plan to make a new PC over Christmas and am going to put my Operating system on the SSD as well as use it for all of my Houdini caching/etc. as well as for large models/textures for quick access during renders. I plan to go for the Core i7 2600K CPU (rather than the expensive 6 core 980X) because in many tests it outperforms the 6 core Core i7's at a MUCH lower price and it overclocks easily which allows it to not lose out too much when it comes to multithreaded things like rendering and fluid sims. The 980X (or maybe 990X now) is still your best bet for fluid sims, though- but you can save a lot of money and not lose too much performance by going to an overclocked 2600K.
It would be interesting for someone to run some tests on non-SSD vs. SSD fluid sims and large renders. (Maybe I will once I build my machine…)
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The 980X (or maybe 990X now) is still your best bet for fluid sims, thoughIntel released the i7 3960X and 3930K a few weeks ago, which is the successor to the i7 990/980/970, based on the same architecture as the i7 2000 series. They're both 6-core CPUs with quad memory channels, at 3.3GHz-3.9GHz turbo/15MB cache ($990), and 3.2GHz-3.8Ghz/12MB cache ($583), respectively.
The extra two cores and memory channels will cost you roughly double for the 3930+X79 8-DIMM motherboard, compared to a i7 2600 system. It's priced similarly to the older i7 900 series. The 3900 series also doesn't come packaged with a CPU heatsink, so you need to spend an additional $40 for that.
The crazy part of those CPUs is that they're actually trimmed down - the upcoming Xeons based on that die will have the full 8 cores and 20MB of cache enabled.
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One thing I have heard (haven't experienced this myself) is that an SSD (solid state drive) can greatly speed up your fluid sims due to constantly reading/writing huge amounts of data. This could conceivably make more of a difference than faster CPU's since hard drives can be such a choking point, but I am not sure at this point.
-Craig
From what I have heard the Solid State Drives make a huge difference, the only bad is you cant recover or fix anything on them once its damaged and you must replace it. If theyr gone theyr gone. So in other words you can work but they are not suitable for storage. I was thinking of a SDD hdd for system and apps and some sata for storage.
I dont know if it would really speed up houdinis fluid sims but playing 20 full HD videos real-time simultaneously seams like a pretty fair transfer rate. Im sure some of the chaps around here have some experience with that.
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We have several 2600K boxes running (some since about a year), they are doing great for what little money they had cost.
Right now Non-ECC-8GB-Dimms are hitting the market in large numbers, so you can run these with 32gb ram (which I would recommend, since the modules are cheap).
Right now Non-ECC-8GB-Dimms are hitting the market in large numbers, so you can run these with 32gb ram (which I would recommend, since the modules are cheap).
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Erik,
I guess it depends on what you need. I'm looking at 250 Euro (including german VAT) for a 32gb-Kit (4x 8GB) DDR3-1333 and 1600 1.5V (by Corsair, for example), roughly double for DDR3-1866 and overclocker-voltages (which I don't use).
I will send you a link via PM.
I guess it depends on what you need. I'm looking at 250 Euro (including german VAT) for a 32gb-Kit (4x 8GB) DDR3-1333 and 1600 1.5V (by Corsair, for example), roughly double for DDR3-1866 and overclocker-voltages (which I don't use).
I will send you a link via PM.
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RAM question: Where does an extra 2x8gb comes in (simulation, interface interactivity)? I'm using a 2600k@4.5ghz. I may also need to upgrade to windows pro so insights would really help. Thank you!
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RAM question: Where does an extra 2x8gb comes in (simulation, interface interactivity)? I'm using a 2600k@4.5ghz. I may also need to upgrade to windows pro so insights would really help. Thank you!
With more RAM you can simulate and render higher resolution grids for volume simulations and higher amounts of particles for example.
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With more RAM you can simulate and render higher resolution grids for volume simulations and higher amounts of particles for example.
Great. Like I said before, I'm using 2600k at 4.5ghz with 2x8gb sticks. My concern is the cpu would bottleneck the added 2x8gb. So, does it make any sense to run 4x8gb with 2600k@4.5ghz for rendering out simulations? Thanks.
And, I googled the topic and this thread came up that's why I decided to hijack it :?
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