does any one there know any books for TDs??

There's always The Bible [amazon.com].

This book covers a whoolle lot more than RenderMan. It coveres cg math, aesthetics, rendering fundamentals, lighting, terminology, history, pretty much everything…

Its not hard to get thru either, check it out.

There are some listed here http://forums.odforce.net/index.php?/topic/6939-books-to-read [forums.odforce.net]

eetu.