Making Initial States Individually?

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Hi, i need to make initial states for 2 seperate objects which have to collide each other, don't know how can i do that?
i have a sphere and box in the scene, i made a initial state on 7th frame for box's position(falling down and got position) but the initial state affecting sphere too(falling down which i dont want) because of same dope network, other thing i tried; put them individual dope networks but at this time they cannot collide each other so how can i solve this?
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