Trouble with null node...

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@buki and everyone: The display dropdown is what look like shades/glasses.
@cooly08: After you uninstall do you re-start your computer before installing again, and making sure that everything is deleted?

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Yes. I've deleted the $HOME/Houdini10.0 folder and the sidefx folder that is in the program files folder. And reboot my computer before installing it again.
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Are you going to the uninstall option or are you just deleting the folders/files? If you are just deleting then sometimes information remains in the Registry and elsewhere. If there is no uninstall option try going to add/remove programs in Windows Control Panel and try uninstalling it there.

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Yes I use add/remove programs
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Ok, that you see the Control OP rendered is a good sign and means that your NULL node can be fixed one way or another. We just have to figure out how

Next test: Open the file attached (it's just a NULL node). Does this NULL render out correctly? If yes, we can be sure that it's just the tool that is broken and you'll (we) have to look into that

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null.hipnc (38.7 KB)

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Haha excellent MandDay, I love your message “Here should be your NULL:” in Houdini ^^

Thanks

Yes it's working and yes it's the null tool itself who is broken. But why ? That's the question. Because, something else can be broken too. And it's very strange indeed ^^

I don't have the time now to install windows 7 from scratch but I will let you know when I do that.
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I wouldn't recomment overdoing your whole OS before you haven't checked out at least the first options you have. Dive into /houdini/scripts/python/objtoolutils.py and try out some things. I'vent gone through that file in all detail but it should boil down to a sequence of commands which lay down the container and a NULL obj inside. Once you have found them, try to run them one after one in Houdinis py-console and thus figure out which command exactly is causing the problem.

That's all the help I can give you so far. I'm not a python programmer myself but it appears to be a fairly simple script and you should be able to locate the crucial commands in question.

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Looks to me like the problem is a result of the init scripts failing to be run. If there was a problem with the code in objecttoolutils then you'd be receiving Python errors and the tool wouldn't work at all. Maybe there is some sort of permissions error in $HH/scripts/? Does creating a Geometry object in the Network Editor give you the operator with the File SOP be created inside it?
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ManDay > Merci

graham > Does creating a Geometry object in the Network Editor give you the operator with the File SOP be created inside it?

Yes the Geometry object has the File SOP operator created inside.
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hmmm.

What happens if you do the following?

Open Houdini and create a Null object. Open up an Hscript textport and enter the following:
source obj/null.cmd /obj/null1 where null1 is the name of the null you created.
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graham > Here is the result :

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/c4ef1121-8d11-498c-ba85-4a2ad407d603.jpg [tof.canardpc.com]
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So the null init script is being run. However it looks like it cannot source the $HH/scripts/obj/nullcontrol.cmd script. This is the script that actually creates the control and point nodes inside the Null object.

Does that file exist? Does it have read permissions?
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Yes the file exist and he's readable.

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/b958206c-d5e6-4c83-ad7a-e15af25ded44.jpg [tof.canardpc.com]

(I've added the hconfig result through the command line tool).
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Can you try creating a null, opening the text port and typing the following?
cd /obj/null1
source obj/nullcontrol.cmd

Also, if you create a Sticky or Rivet do you see the control object in those?
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Yes this work !

I have the two nodes in the null1 (control and point).
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When I create a rivet (I don't really what it does, but I've followed the help line at the bottom) and I attach it to a point from a cube, there is a rivet1 in network editor, but it's empty and nothing appear in the viewport. Like the null node

Same thing with the sticky node.
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Hey guys, a have exactly same problem :? Empty Null….. Any Solution?

UP! I've solved the problem. Just install houdini in “c:\Houdini\10.0.595” and thats it !!!
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