What compiler Version will be used for Houdini 12 ?
Can any Beta Tester confirm that it will be VS2005 again ?

I think we're going to try for VS2008 (VC9). However, it's still in beta so things are subject to change until public release so don't quote me on it.

edward
I think we're going to try for VS2008 (VC9). However, it's still in beta so things are subject to change until public release so don't quote me on it.

Good to hear. This should make it easier for windows users to add custom python modules. For most of them there are VC9 builds, but nearly no VC8 builds ..

I am just wondering, why dont you use minigw or cygwin. If Houdini is developing mainly for Linux, jumping to win is easier with minigw(for eg.).

Other thing is that we need to pay VS, but for minigw we can easy use free Eclipse(for eg.)

cybermax
I am just wondering, why dont you use minigw or cygwin. If Houdini is developing mainly for Linux, jumping to win is easier with minigw(for eg.).

Other thing is that we need to pay VS, but for minigw we can easy use free Eclipse(for eg.)

You do not have any choice. You have to use the same compiler as SideFX uses to compile their build. If you use another compiler your modules wount work. You can not even mix VC8 and VC9 ..

I would quite like to jump to linux, but I have to integrate in the rest of the studio and a lot of people wount touch linux even if they are forced to.

dulo
You do not have any choice. You have to use the same compiler as SideFX uses to compile their build. If you use another compiler your modules wount work. You can not even mix VC8 and VC9 ..

I would quite like to jump to linux, but I have to integrate in the rest of the studio and a lot of people wount touch linux even if they are forced to.

Sorry, I wrote it wrong. It has NOT written to YOU, but to SESI.

No problem. No offence taken 8)

I thought MS is not supporting 2008 anymore? Why not just to VS2010? I use it since the early betas and it's pretty good IMO.

The compiler from VS2010 is very good, but the IDE is extremely slow with big projects and I think the Houdini Solution will be a quite big one ..
SideFX could also think about using the Intel ICC compiler. With autovectorisation it was always 10-20% faster than optimised MSC code, but on the other hand would this mean some serious trouble for python and plugin developers ..

magneto
I thought MS is not supporting 2008 anymore? Why not just to VS2010? I use it since the early betas and it's pretty good IMO.

Trust me, we've tried. The compiler is fine, but the VS2010 x64 build tools are severely broken. Try building Python with VS2010 for Win64.

dulo
The compiler from VS2010 is very good, but the IDE is extremely slow with big projects and I think the Houdini Solution will be a quite big one ..
SideFX could also think about using the Intel ICC compiler. With autovectorisation it was always 10-20% faster than optimised MSC code, but on the other hand would this mean some serious trouble for python and plugin developers ..

I didn't notice much slowness in a very large project (2-3M lines of code) but yeah it's not very snappy. Also I use productivity extensions that does a lot of lazy loading so it appears to be faster.

edward

magneto
I thought MS is not supporting 2008 anymore? Why not just to VS2010? I use it since the early betas and it's pretty good IMO.

Trust me, we've tried. The compiler is fine, but the VS2010 x64 build tools are severely broken. Try building Python with VS2010 for Win64.

Awesome MS always finds something to screw up. But it's great that you are always striving to use the latest stuff available instead of delaying.