Hello,

Anyone know why I might not be able to access the group sop?

Everytime I use the Tab menu or select from the menu, it defaults to group create node.

Group SOPs seems to be currently being deprecated..

There's a line (163) in the $HFS/houdini/OPcustomize the tells it to use a “Group Create SOP” whenever creating a “Group SOP”.

You can still however create one using the texport. Just navigate to your network and type this:

Or via python (assuming you have a geo1 object):

I do kinda miss the old Group SOP mainly because I'm so used to it (and it's sort of an all in one node).

Hi galagast,

I was trying to follow an example of using a bounding object for grouping. Which is why I was trying to get the ‘old’ group sop.

But looking at the different new goup nodes again this morning I found if I click on the group creates' “Keep In Bounding Regions” option, you get more expanded controls, like with the ‘old’ group sop.

But your tip on how to get to the old one is appreciated.

At least I now know that it's not a bug and working as intended.

The example the guy was doing was with H16, so I assumed it was readily available since I could also see it in the menu in my file too.

Thank you.

The Group Create tool was aliased to “Group.”

You're welcome BabaJ Glad to be of help.

@jsmack: That was also my initial thought.. so I looked it up the OPcustomize file, but there does not seem to be an entry that creates a new alias for the group sop.

Closest and meaningful one I found was on line (163) as mentioned above:

Unless.. is there another area where the aliases get configured by default?

EDIT: I'm on Houdini 16.0.550 Indie

The “group” alias is a shelf tool added to the tab-menu, so doesn't exist as a node. The override is in $HFS/houdini/toolbar/ExtraTools.shelf.

<tool name=“geo_group” label=“Group” icon=“SOP_group”>
<helpURL>operator:Sop/group</helpURL>
<toolMenuContext name=“network”>
<contextNetType>SOP</contextNetType>
</toolMenuContext>
<toolMenuContext name=“viewer”>
<contextNetType>SOP</contextNetType>
</toolMenuContext>
<toolSubmenu>Group</toolSubmenu>
<script scriptType=“python”><![CDATA[import toolutils
import soptoolutils
soptoolutils.genericTool(kwargs, ‘groupcreate’)]]></script>
</tool>


Cool, thanks for clearing that up Jeff!

Indeed, here's a look at the Group Shelf Tool under the Model tab:

galagast
Group SOPs seems to be currently being deprecated..
You can still however create one using the texport. Just navigate to your network and type this:
opadd group

Hello, I am sorry, but as been a newbie i do not understand where to type this ? Can you, please, explain more in details ?
I am following a couple of training videos and there is a serious difference in the Group SOP interface for H15 and H17 i use.

Thank you in advance for help.